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The McDonald’s restaurant in Front Royal, VA offers a real bounty of customer-service lessons. The place is actually not all that bad by the standards of modern McDonaldses, and most of the problems seem to be pretty deeply rooted in the McDonald’s system rather than in the local management. There’s still a lot of room for improvement there, but the place is still a cut above most Front Royal fast-food establishments, and they do at least seem to try.
Anyway, the other day Nicole and I were in there, and ordered our usual food. Nicole ordered her burger with extra pickles, as always. But this time there was something new:

What was new was a $0.10 charge for ‘pickle’.
Now, this could have been entirely in error. McDonald’s cash registers are one of the world’s great stories of UI failure: there’s hardly an aspect of them that isn’t done wrong.
Start with the physical device itself: McDonald’s uses an odd model of cash register, suggesting that they’re either custom-made for McDonald’s or at least targeted pretty directly at the fast-food business. Yet they all have some home-made-looking thing jammed under them to change the angle of the screen so it’s readable. In some places, I’ve seen the cash registers propped up on piles of paper napkins.
At the Front Royal McDonald’s, the napkins and little plywood wedges aren’t enough: the placement of the light fixtures behind the counter means that the employees still have to shield the screen with their hands, move their heads around, and squint.
But that’s not the half of it. One of the reasons so much squinting is required is that the UI of the things seems to be unnecessarily complicated, possibly as a reflection of the unnecessarily-complicated nature of McDonalds’ menu. When you order anything with anything else, or without something, the process has a tendency to go off the rails.
(Or maybe you don’t have to order anything special: the other day, I saw a customer walk up and say ‘Number 4′. That’s all: ‘Number 4′. This is some biscuit-hashbrown-coffee combo. Fully twenty seconds of screen-tapping ensued behind the counter.)
The entire interface of the cash register is an LCD screen; it can change dynamically. It doesn’t appear to, though. The computer system knows certain things — or, in any case, it should know certain things — about the menu, and it could use this knowledge to make the job easier, faster, and (presumably) more profitable.
This is easier to demonstrate than explain. Let’s say that you order a Big Mac, and that you want to make some changes to the standard burger.
When the employee hits the ‘Big Mac’ button, two other buttons should light up: ‘With’ and ‘Without’. If the employee hits ‘Without’, the system — knowing about the menu, mind you — would only present the employee with buttons for ‘Two all-beef patties’, ’special sauce’, ‘lettuce’, ‘cheese’, ‘pickles’, ‘onions’, and ’sesame-seed bun’, because those are the components of a Big Mac (the thing also comes with ketchup and mustard, but these are not mentioned in the song so I am leaving them out here).
If the employee hit the ‘With’ button, the system would present a list of things that can theoretically go on a Big Mac: ‘more pickles’, ‘tomatoes’, etc.
The system doesn’t seem to do this, though: in fact, it makes the employee navigate through a series of sub-menus to access certain burger-customization directives, because the entire McDonald’s system appears to be set up from the perspective of the kitchen, not the customer.
But I digress. We were charged $0.10 for extra pickles, which may have been a mistake attributable at least in part to McDonalds’ obtuse IT, or which may reflect a new push for increased profits through nickel-and-diming the customers.
Note that the Double Cheeseburger was ordered without ketchup, but that no credit was applied for this omission.
This is a violation of Customer Service Rule #17, Practice Customer Parity. The example given in the rule has to do with offering refunds in the same form in which the customer originally paid (i.e. you shouldn’t take cash from him for a purchase and then, when he brings your defective merchandise back, offer to mail a check from headquarters in a week), but this is another important point: if you charge for small extras, you must offer credit for omissions. If you feel that you must be paid for such things as two extra slices of pickle, then the customer is quite justified in feeling that he should not pay for anything he’s not getting.
The simple solution is to build in a margin for things like extra pickles on every nth burger. The pickles aren’t free, and as McDonald’s is in business to make a profit the pickles have to be paid for somehow. In every business, there is a limit to the amount of goods and/or services that can be delivered for a given price.
Calling undue attention to this fact, though, can only end in disaster. If you make it clear that you are carefully parcelling out the ketchup, napkins, pickles, or what-have-you, as a customer I am going to be quite vigilant that I get everything that’s coming to me: Weigh those fries, mister! Far better to rely on a process of give-and-take, while managing your overall process to make sure that the give remains in balance with the take.
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The Big Mac has no ketchup and mustard, only the special sauce.
One of the great things about the Big Mac: double pickles, no catsup (I guess it’s actually ketchup at Micky Dee’s). I call that double pickles because the special sauce contains pickles and they put pickles on the burger.
Mmmmm, pickles.
Comment by Nicole 11.09.05 @ 13:34i work for mcdonalds coorperation, everything we put and give you is a food cost. so costing you 10 cents for extra pickles is part of the food cost. why should we give you extra pickles or cheese for free when that is comming out of our own pockets?
Comment by un known 11.16.06 @ 22:21Well, I can think of a few reasons:
1) because the practice costs more in goodwill than it’s worth
2) because Burger King, Wendy’s, Hardee’s, etc. do not charge for extra pickles
3) (related to #1) because McDonald’s doesn’t give the customer credit for things that are left off the burger. You can’t have it coming and going.
But then you’d know this if you could read, since I point this stuff out in the original post. Thanks for playing.
Comment by tino 11.17.06 @ 08:13oh please. just because i work at mcdonalds doesnt mean i cant read. that is such a sterio type. i have a high school diploma thank you and i get free college schooling for being a manager at a mc donalds and going to school. so tell me how you got your college free?
Comment by un known 12.01.06 @ 14:13I don’t conclude that you have issues with reading comprehension because you work at McDonald’s. I have no issues with, and make no arbitrary judgements about, people who work at McDonald’s, and in fact one of my main complaints about the place is that those jobs are not nearly as simple to do well as McDonald’s seems to think they are.
Rather, I draw my conclusion because you are arguing points that I answer in my original post. The things that McDonald’s leaves off the burger are a ‘food cost’, too, but the customer doesn’t get credit for that: the price only ratchets upward.
You should ask a professor in your college’s business department whether this practice is likely to generate customer goodwill, or whether those dimes that McDonald’s is making from the pickles are in fact very costly ones.
Comment by tino 12.01.06 @ 14:25I HAVE WORKED FOR MCDONALD’S BEFORE BECOMING AN OWNER/OPERATOR OF MY ON BUSINESS. MCDONALD’S HAS DONE WELL FOR ME, THEY TAUGHT ME WHAT NONE OF THOSE OTHERS COULD EVER TEACH ME AND THAT’S THE POWER TO BE TOUGH IF THEY DON’T GIVE YOU CREDIT FOR WHAT YOU TAKE OFF, I DO KNOW THIS, IT WOULDN’T STOP YOU VISITING AGAIN, SO THESE BLOGS ARE A WASTE OF BYTES. THAT’S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AND I AM STICKING TO IT.
Comment by Elm Clean Inc. Flint, Michigan 06.23.07 @ 02:35I work at a mcdonalds, and we do not charge extra for pickles. I am highly offended you would stereo type mcdonald’s workers!
Comment by nathaniel 11.07.07 @ 21:05Ok I work at mcdonalds and its hell I do not like my job at all always getting yelled at by my managers and customer’s to be faster, well I think that most people would want fresh food so when I have to throw it away to make a new batch of any thing you should not get mad because I could have given you what was still there and trust me that happend’s alot the reason that employees give you a bad look when you ask for 20 ketchup because for one we know you will never use that much 2ed is because we continually have to worry about our times in either drive though or front counter so even tho we know most people would like ketchup we get fusterated because you said nothing when you where ordering so that it could already be ready when you got there instead of havening to get it in the bag when you have to ask, alot of people wonder why alot of employees have a bad attitude , well look at the place we work at since I have worked at McDonald’s the only thing i have learned that i will use out of the there is how to deal with pissed of people when I’m just doing my job.
Comment by Tim 12.31.07 @ 21:42“I HAVE WORKED FOR MCDONALD’S BEFORE BECOMING AN OWNER/OPERATOR OF MY ON BUSINESS. MCDONALD’S HAS DONE WELL FOR ME, THEY TAUGHT ME WHAT NONE OF THOSE OTHERS COULD EVER TEACH ME AND THAT’S THE POWER TO BE TOUGH IF THEY DON’T GIVE YOU CREDIT FOR WHAT YOU TAKE OFF, I DO KNOW THIS, IT WOULDN’T STOP YOU VISITING AGAIN, SO THESE BLOGS ARE A WASTE OF BYTES. THAT’S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AND I AM STICKING TO IT.”
What seems to be a waste is the space between some peoples ears. You own your own business? And you don’t recognize the importance of creating a fair system for your customers? Now I know why they say 80% of new businesses fail! Thank you for enlightening me!
To Tim,
I realize that job prolly isn’t the best, and it prolly does get old dealing with those situations, and no one is arguing that fact. I am always courteous to anyone that I ask for anything from, whether I am paying or not. The point being discussed here is the upper management of the corporation, and their greedy tactics to nickel and dime every customer they can, at every chance they can. And yes, when I order a large order of fries or a $6.50 combo meal, and have to not only ask for ketchup, but ask for more when I get 3 packs, that too gets a little old.
Comment by Shaun 04.03.08 @ 15:31oh please. just because i work at mcdonalds doesnt mean i cant read. that is such a sterio type. i have a high school diploma thank you and i get free college schooling for being a manager at a mc donalds and going to school. so tell me how you got your college free?
USMC thank you very much!
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I hate it when they’re stingy with the ketchup in the drive-thru. Just for the record, Yes, I want ketchup with my fries. No, I don’t want to have to remember to ask you every time I go through the drive-thru. And if you are required by stingy management to ask me how many of those packets I want and I tell you my standard reply of 20, I do not appreciate the dirty looks I normally get back.
Obviously the solution here is to outsource your order taking in the drive-thru to someone in India that gets tutored on baseball and other USA neologisms , just so you can manage to afford to put the ketchup in every bag, like you mostly do with napkins and always do with straws.
Comment by Standard Mischief 11.08.05 @ 15:11